{"id":26,"date":"2025-04-07T00:25:48","date_gmt":"2025-04-07T00:25:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/?p=26"},"modified":"2025-04-18T04:20:48","modified_gmt":"2025-04-18T04:20:48","slug":"ambulatory-brain-surgery-next","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/?p=26","title":{"rendered":"Ambulatory Brain Surgery next"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Begin forwarded message:<\/p>\n<p><strong>From: <\/strong>Halltennis@aol.com<\/p>\n<p><strong>Subject: Ambulatory Brain Surgery next<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Date: <\/strong>June 30, 1997 at 17:30:05 EDT<\/p>\n<p><strong>To: <\/strong>WWTennis@aol.com, MTennis391@aol.com, joe@joe10.com, skt@vista.com, mcquaide@vista.com, Wmbruffin@aol.com, LMF99@aol.com, jimp@digitoy.com, BEATBARD@aol.com, TIFFHOOKS@aol.com, shwiller@fwb.gulf.net<\/p>\n<p>Hey,<br \/>\nHaving had to deal with a misfiring neurological system all my life, which<br \/>\nhas given me intermittent fits of clarity from time to time, how that<br \/>\nsystem does it also claims my attention.<br \/>\nHere are some notes on one of my favorites, a condensation of pages and pages<br \/>\nof stiff prose&#8211;stiff to appreciate, that is. Some of it may fit if you try<br \/>\nit on.<\/p>\n<p>Jaynes&#8217; theory of human thought development has four separate theorems:<\/p>\n<p>1. CONSCIOUSNESS IS BASED ON LANGUAGE. To clarify this thought requires a<br \/>\nlong, difficult discussion.<\/p>\n<p>2. THE BICAMERAL MIND. That is, preceeding consciousness, here was a<br \/>\ndifferent mentality based on verbal hallucinations.<\/p>\n<p>3. CONSCIOUSNESS WAS LEARNED ONLY AFTER THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BICAMERAL<br \/>\nMIND. Roughly about 1000 bce.<\/p>\n<p>4. THE RIGHT BRAIN AND LEFT BRAIN HAVE (OFTEN?) DISCRETE OPERATIONS TO<br \/>\nPURSUE AND RELATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE BICAMERAL MIND PERIOD. The right<br \/>\nhemisphere processes information in manner that synthesizes, etc.<\/p>\n<p>TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS, first distinguish between a) what is<br \/>\nintrospectable and b) the other neural abilities we call cognition.<\/p>\n<p>A GOOD PLACE TO START IS THIS QUESTION.<br \/>\nQuestion: I am perceiving you, looking at you. Are you trying to say I am<br \/>\nnot conscious of you at this moment?<\/p>\n<p>Answer: Yes. THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.<br \/>\nYou are conscious of the rhetorical argument you are making, not of me. If<br \/>\nyou turned away and looked at the wall, you might well be conscious of me as<br \/>\nyou spoke (after you decided what you were going to say).<\/p>\n<p>(Consciousness and perception are not the same thing.<br \/>\nNeither is cognition.)<\/p>\n<p>Consciousness is not all language, though it is generated by language and<br \/>\naccessed by it.<\/p>\n<p>GENERAL RULE: There is no operation in consciousness that did not occur in<br \/>\nbehavior first. What are the operations in consciousness? Here:<\/p>\n<p>In our (western) culture it (consciousness) has several important features:<br \/>\n1. Mind-space is a primary feature. It is the place where we sense our<br \/>\nintrospecting to be going on.<\/p>\n<p>2. The analog &#8220;I&#8221; is another feature.(Not the same as the bodily &#8220;I&#8221;) The<br \/>\nanalog &#8220;I&#8221; moves about within the mind space, goes from place to place, does<br \/>\nanalog things, has thoughts, makes speeches, senses past, present, future.<\/p>\n<p>The test of consciousness is the analog &#8220;I&#8221; narratizing in a functional<br \/>\nmind-space. That is, introspecting. Exactly as described by Descartes,<br \/>\nLocke, and Hume.<\/p>\n<p>Add two more:<\/p>\n<p>3. Concentration. The analog of sensory attention.<\/p>\n<p>4. Suppression. We desist from annoying thoughts. The analog of<br \/>\nrepugnance, disgust, or turning-away-from.<\/p>\n<p>Another tricky feature of consciousness is called conciliation or<br \/>\ncompatibilization&#8211;call it conscilience (a new word). We do this most<br \/>\nfrequently in dreams or in the creativity of art where we juxtapose the<br \/>\nunrelated (things that cannot possibly have anything to do with each other)<br \/>\nand come up with both of them making a new thing.<\/p>\n<p>Consciousness is not simple. Think of having imaginary conversations,<br \/>\nimagining scenes, imagining action&#8211;jumping a fence, monitoring fatigue or<br \/>\npain or hunger, or imagining music, or an idea for a painting.<\/p>\n<p>THE OLD, PREHISTORIC HUMAN MIND WAS DIFFERENT.<br \/>\nThe brain structure was, perhaps, a little different.<br \/>\nAt least, it worked differently.<br \/>\nIn times of stress, verbal hallucination brought into focus a response to the<br \/>\nproblem.<br \/>\nA lot of people still do this:<br \/>\n&#8220;I talked with god. He said take up the Book. I did. It solved my<br \/>\nproblem.&#8221;<br \/>\nThere is some evidence of a genetic basis for humans to have and use<br \/>\nhallucinations.<\/p>\n<p>There are two ways of seeing this:<br \/>\n1) People always had both kinds of mind because consciousness began as<br \/>\nlanguage began and gradually consciousness won out over hallucination.<br \/>\nIntrospection prevailed.<br \/>\n2)Theocratic agriculture fostered population explosions everywhere, and<br \/>\npopulation density fostered social complexity and social chaos. This made<br \/>\nhallucination an impossible mechanism for problem solving.<\/p>\n<p>Number Two suggests a lot of social violence. We call it war. Remember?<\/p>\n<p>Jaynes suggests a number of transitions, changes, as we developed<br \/>\nconsciousness:<\/p>\n<p>Mating became Mating &amp; Sex.<br \/>\nAnger became Anger &amp; Hate.<br \/>\nExcitement became Excitement &amp; Joy.<br \/>\nAffiliation became Affiliation &amp; Love.<br \/>\nShame became Shame &amp; Guilt.<br \/>\nFear became Fear &amp; Anxiety.<\/p>\n<p>In Classical Greek, in the sixth and seventh centuries bce, they developed<br \/>\nthese new words:<\/p>\n<p>Gnosis, a knowing.<br \/>\nGenesis, a beginning.<br \/>\nEmphasis, a showing in.<br \/>\nAnalysis, a loosening up.<br \/>\nPhronesis, an intellection, thinking, understanding, or consciousness.<br \/>\nLook for this in the Iliad in vain. Find it in the Oddessy.<\/p>\n<p>This subject matter is hard to talk about because of the confusions arising<br \/>\nfrom polysemy, and from the other homonymic or multireferential associations<br \/>\nof memory.<\/p>\n<p>Questions like this: &#8220;Are we not confusing here the concept of consciousness<br \/>\nwith consciousness itself?&#8221;<br \/>\nJaynes&#8217; answer is that we are fusing them, not confusing them. They are the<br \/>\nsame. &#8220;Mention&#8221; and &#8220;use&#8221; can be identical. The concept of baseball and<br \/>\nbaseball are the same thing, he says. When you talk of money, you are<br \/>\ntalking about money. Or law, or good, or evil. &#8211;he says, Or Jaynes&#8217;<br \/>\nconcept, he says.<\/p>\n<p>THE ORIGINAL STORY OF OEDIPUS, REX.<\/p>\n<p>He slew his father and unwittingly wed his mother, they had several children,<br \/>\ndiscovered the taboo incest, felt badly about it, recovered and lived happily<br \/>\never after as King and Queen of Thebes.<\/p>\n<p>THE REWRITE (what consciousness can do)<\/p>\n<p>Four hundred years later, Sophocles rewrote the story and had Oedipus punish<br \/>\nhimself blind and have a miserable death at Colonus.<\/p>\n<p>Another tale of dealing with shame, and guilt (the product of introspection<br \/>\nand guilt&#8211;consciousness):<br \/>\nHerodotus tells the story: Phrynicus staged the first Greek, Classical<br \/>\nTragedy: &#8220;The Fall of Miletus.&#8221; The play decribed the destruction of that<br \/>\nIonian city by the Persians the year before, in 494 bce. The people of<br \/>\nAthens were so shocked, they could not function for days. The city came to a<br \/>\nstandstill. Phrynicus was banished in perpetual disgrace. The play was<br \/>\nburnt. (The messenger was punished.)<br \/>\n6\/3\/97<\/p>\n<p>OTHER READINGS AVAILABLE&#8211;IN PRINT NOW<\/p>\n<p>THE INVENTION OF MEMORY<br \/>\nThe Invention of Memory, a new view of the brain, Israel Resenfield, Basic<br \/>\nBooks, NY.<\/p>\n<p>Reviewed by J. W. Lance, Prof of Neurology, Univ of New South Wales,<br \/>\nSydney, Aust.<\/p>\n<p>The author buys &#8220;Neural Darwinism&#8221; (see propounder Gerald Edelman, Rockfeller<br \/>\nUniv. In NY, Nobel Prize in<br \/>\nphysiology or Medicine &#8217;72): &#8220;In sleep, when the neuronal maps are released<br \/>\nfrom the restraint of sensory order, memory traces combine in fragments to<br \/>\nform dreams.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Cannot determine precisely where and how memories are stored.<\/p>\n<p>Registration of memory is localized, the recall of past events is not. We<br \/>\nare far from understanding the mechanics of memory.<\/p>\n<p>UNSTABLE IDEAS, temperament, cognition, and self, Jerome Kagan, Harvard Univ<br \/>\nPress, Cambridge.<\/p>\n<p>The reviewer is R. M. Restak, author of THE BRAIN and THE MIND.<\/p>\n<p>He says: In order to illustrate the difficulties presented by commonly<br \/>\nemployed yet deeply ambiguous words, Mr. Kagan takes up &#8220;self&#8221; and<br \/>\nconsciousness&#8211;two prominent and &#8220;unstable&#8221; ideas that hinder rather than<br \/>\npromote dialogue and communication. &#8220;Although each of us may feel that our<br \/>\nconsciousness is among our most significant characteristics and the most<br \/>\nimportqant determinant of our behavior, such an assumption is neither<br \/>\nempirically proven nor logically commanding,&#8221; Mr. Kagan says provocatively.<\/p>\n<p>Consciousness plays its most useful role in mental life during times of deep<br \/>\nuncertainty about how to proceed, he believes, when an event occurs that<br \/>\ncannot be handled by one&#8217;s usual behavioral repertory. But these occasions<br \/>\nare exceptional. For the most part, in his view, &#8220;consciousness can be<br \/>\nlikened to the staff of a fire department. Most of the time, it is quietly<br \/>\nplaying pinochle in the back room; it performs when the alarm sounds.&#8221;<br \/>\nWhat is meant by self is even more difficult.<\/p>\n<p>The belief that anger, jealousy, competitiveness, violence, incest are the<br \/>\ninevitable remnant of animal heritage conflicts with the logic which says<br \/>\nthat the structure and philosophy of society are the source.<\/p>\n<p>Emphasizing biology gives us an easy &#8220;out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>MORE MORE MORE<\/p>\n<p>COPY OF SOME NOTES FROM REREADING JAYNES, SECOND EDITION:<\/p>\n<p>First hypothesis:<br \/>\nConsciousness is based on language.<br \/>\nConsciousness is not the same as cognition.<br \/>\nConsciousness is not the same as perception.<\/p>\n<p>(Consciousness is our<br \/>\nperception of cognition plus our cognition of perception.)<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;I'(make an arrow)(I see a table).<\/p>\n<p>There is no operation in consciousness that did not occur in behavior first.<\/p>\n<p>Analogy deals with similarity between relationships.<\/p>\n<p>The bodily I (self) moves through physical space.<br \/>\nThe analog &#8220;I&#8221; moves through mind-space.<\/p>\n<p>P. 450:<br \/>\n&#8220;&#8230;we narratize the analogic simulation of actual behavior, an&#8230;(aspect of<br \/>\nconsciousness)&#8230;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The basic connotative definition of consciousness is thus the analog &#8220;I&#8221;<br \/>\nnarratizing in a functional mind space. The denotative definition is, as it<br \/>\nwas for Descartes, Locke, Hume, what is introspectable.<\/p>\n<p>Concentration (arrow) analog of sensory attention.<br \/>\nSupprerssion (arrow) analog of repugnance, disgust, or turning away from.<\/p>\n<p>Conciliation (arrow) concilience:<br \/>\nmaking things compatible with each other.<br \/>\n&#8211;most important in dreaming.<\/p>\n<p>Modes of conscios narratization: (p. 452) Perceptual, verbal, behavioral,<br \/>\npsychological, musical, imagining.<\/p>\n<p>File it for a while.<br \/>\nL&#8211;h.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Begin forwarded message: From: Halltennis@aol.com Subject: Ambulatory Brain Surgery next Date: June 30, 1997 at 17:30:05 EDT&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-email","wpcat-4-id"],"acf":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=26"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":301,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26\/revisions\/301"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=26"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=26"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.halltennis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=26"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}